Another Point of View on Lima Climate Deal

Out local left is celebrating the latest UN Climate Change deal from Lima. Here is an example from the Sierra Foothill Report: Climate deal would commit every nation to limiting emissions

“Negotiators from around the globe reached a climate change agreement early Sunday that would, for the first time in history, commit every nation to reducing its rate of greenhouse gas emissions — yet would still fall far short of what is needed to stave off the dangerous and costly early impact of global warming,” The New York Times is reporting Sunday morning.

And a comment by Greg Zallar:

No change ever begins with any more than a step. This is a step and is something to celebrate. It may not be enough but it is a beginning to something that may be enough in the future. Hooray!

Any voice of condemnation is no different that a parent’s condemning a child’s first steps as inadequate, and serves no purpose.

Let’s get behind it and keep moving.

Here is the reality check from Dr Benny Peiser, the director of the Global Warming Policy Forum (GWPF), who welcomes the non-binding and toothless UN climate agreement which was adopted in Lima earlier today. Dr Peiser said:

“The Lima agreement is another acknowledgement of international reality. The deal is further proof, if any was needed, that the developing world will not agree to any legally binding caps, never mind reductions of their CO2 emissions.”

“As seasoned observers predicted, the Lima deal is based on a voluntary basis which allows nations to set their own voluntary CO2 targets and policies without any legally binding caps or international oversight.”

“In contrast to the Kyoto Protocol, the Lima deal opens the way for a new climate agreement in 2015 which will remove legal obligations for governments to cap or reduce CO2 emissions. A voluntary agreement would also remove the mad rush into unrealistic decarbonisation policies that are both economically and politically unsustainable.”

While this is all good news, we in California have a real problem. Our liberal progressive government is Sacramento will fall in line with the UN CO2 reduction demands, forcing up the cost of energy, making California less competitive in global markets with nations that are setting much lesser goals and then not meeting them, since they are voluntary and could impact their economic development. China and India are not going to damage their economy to reduce CO2, but California’s progressives will be more than willing to destroy out economy to support  the bad science promoted by the UN .  Remember at the UN it is all about wealth distribution, not saving the planet from CO2.

About Russ Steele

Freelance writer and climate change blogger. Russ spent twenty years in the Air Force as a navigator specializing in electronics warfare and digital systems. After his service he was employed for sixteen years as concept developer for TRW, an aerospace and automotive company, and then was CEO of a non-profit Internet provider for 18 months. Russ's articles have appeared in Comstock's Business, Capitol Journal, Trailer Life, Monitoring Times, and Idaho Magazine.
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2 Responses to Another Point of View on Lima Climate Deal

  1. kakatoa says:


    Paul Homewood has a blog post up

    on the expected costs for energy in the UK as they move to decarbonize their society.

    I found the post of interest/value as it covered gas costs in the future as well as the expected increased costs for a kWh of electricity.

    Out here in CA we should be in a bit better shape kWh cost wise as we have a lot more hydro generation than the UK.


  2. Russ Steele says:

    Here is an example of the kind to cheating that will go on under the new UN agreement:

    Europeans sip gasoline while Americans guzzle it, or at least that’s how the story goes. But as the Economist reports, once you look under the hood, Europe’s fuel efficiency emissions standards are a little suspect. . . .

    Contrast that with the U.S., which, under President Obama, has enacted some very strong fuel efficiency standards that are putting a sizable dent in our nation’s carbon footprint, even without the kinds of test fudging seen across the Atlantic. Europe likes to think itself a paragon of green policies, but with electricity costs spiraling and coal consumption rising, it looks like it’s having to resort to some fuzzy math to defend its eco-friendly status.


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